mesh problem

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mesh problem

Post by shijun@hit.edu.cn » Mon May 09, 2022 6:56 am

There is a mesh problem in my model
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. And this is the model
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Because the line element was used to establish the boundary column, the actual size of line element need to extend the cetain distance and there is the repeat area
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. I want to separate the boundary column and web wall in the shear wall to garantee the actual length
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. The interaction of General link is defined between boundary column and web wall
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. However, I dont know if the set is correct and the model is abovementioned.

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Re: mesh problem

Post by STKO Team » Mon May 09, 2022 9:54 am

There were some issues in your model:

The first error in the mesh is because you used quadratic line elements (3-node line elements) with a beam element that wants only 2 nodes.
Keep in mind that the "quadratic" order means quadratic order of interpolation for displacement and generates element with mid-edge nodes.

Another error is the mesh type. You need:
  • Triangular shape with Linear order on the top face
  • Quadrilateral shape with Linear order on the other faces
Then I also adjusted your geometry for a structured mesh. Keep in mind that for structured meshes you need 4-sided faces.

Finally the interaction you used are wrong. You need a node-to-node interaction, where the beams are the masters and the shell-sides are the slaves.
Then you need to use a RigidLink boundary condition on them, otherwise the interaction alone is just a geometric feature.
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shijun@hit.edu.cn
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Re: mesh problem

Post by shijun@hit.edu.cn » Wed May 11, 2022 11:26 am

Thank you for your reply.

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Re: mesh problem

Post by STKO Team » Mon May 16, 2022 1:50 pm

You're welcome

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Re: mesh problem

Post by Charon » Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:16 am

Dear STKO Team,

I also encountered this problem, and after making many changes the error was still not solved, I don't know what went wrong. I have attached the file below.
I would be grateful if you could help me with this problem.

Regards,
Charon
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Re: mesh problem

Post by STKO Team » Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:07 am

The error given in red is pretty clear:
You assigned a 2-node Element Property (dispBeamColumn) to a linear mesh with 3 nodes. This means that somewhere in your mode you use a line mesh with quadratic interpolation (i.e. a 3-node line element).
Please, select all those edges and assign Linear interpolation and re-mesh
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After this, you will see another error regarding the pile-cap coupling condition. I don't know what you are trying to do there, but the interaction you use is wrong

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Re: mesh problem

Post by Charon » Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:55 am

Thank you for your reply! I will check my model.

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Re: mesh problem

Post by ValentinaSB » Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:34 am

You are welcome!

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Re: mesh problem

Post by Charon » Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:09 am

ValentinaSB wrote:
Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:34 am
You are welcome!
Dear STKO Team:

Thanks for the quick reply! I set it up as you suggested and re-mesh it, now it works fine and I can enter the analysis program.
1. As for the interaction issue you mentioned, I am using beamSolidCoupling for my pile-cap connection because I want to use a rigid connection between the pile and the bearing. What is wrong with this?
2. I want to simulate a cluster pile centrifuge shaker test, I set my analysis step according to the webinar section on SSI, but I get an error when running and it shows no convergence, can you help me to check that this is the correct way to set the analysis step? What should I do next?
Sorry I have no experience with other FEM software, so I will make mistakes in many of the most basic questions, thank you for your patience and answers!

Regards,
Charon
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Re: mesh problem

Post by STKO Team » Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:54 am

There's a problem with the interaction you used for the beam-solid-coupling.

The master should be the beam-end-node (pile-top node)

The slave should be the face of the cap solid
However, since your cap is made of a single cube, there is only one face at the bottom. Doing this, the beam-solid-coupling constraint will make the whole face rigid.
Instead, you should divide it in such a way that you have sub-faces that correspond to the pile-cross section. That is the part that is rigid with the pile

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