Dear STKO team:
I built a 3D frame model and used 'RCJonitModel3D' in it, but when I did time history analysis I found that the structure didn't seem to be connected together properly and the mode of vibration were clearly wrong as shown in the picture. I've tried adjusting the K(penalty) value of 'RCJonitModel3D' and using different constraint methods in the 'AnalysesCommand' but that doesn't work, how should I adjust the model so that the joints are connected correctly? Can you help me check the model? The model file is in the attachment. Thanks in advance.
Best wishes
wrong modal result
-
Edmond2000
- Posts: 12
- Joined: Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:40 pm
wrong modal result
- Attachments
-
- ss2.png (352.19 KiB) Viewed 1725 times
-
- ss1.png (61.94 KiB) Viewed 1725 times
-
- model.zip
- (292.03 KiB) Downloaded 193 times
Re: wrong modal result
It's because if you use the RCJoint and the rigid diaphragm together, you cannot use the transformation handler!
You should go with penalty.
And also, the analysis to setup the eigen should not have the "wipeAnalysis" otherwise it will be useless
You should go with penalty.
And also, the analysis to setup the eigen should not have the "wipeAnalysis" otherwise it will be useless
- Attachments
-
- 38.zip
- (290.86 KiB) Downloaded 169 times
-
Edmond2000
- Posts: 12
- Joined: Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:40 pm
Re: wrong modal result
Dear STKO team:
Thanks very much for your help! Now the result is correct. This problem has troubled me for a long time.
But I still have a question: What order of magnitude is reasonable for the value of K in RCJointModel3D?
Best regards
-
kesavapraba
- Posts: 468
- Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:25 pm
Re: wrong modal result
The penalty factor isn't fixed. It depends on the specific situation, including the units you're using and the properties of the material you're analyzing. A good starting point is to use a value similar to what you set for the penalty constraint handler in your analysis settings.
Also, you should check the order of the stiffness of load (moment) - displacement (rot) relationships assigned to Rx and Rz zeroLength materials. You can consider 3-4 order higher from the order of the zeroLength materials.
Also, you should check the order of the stiffness of load (moment) - displacement (rot) relationships assigned to Rx and Rz zeroLength materials. You can consider 3-4 order higher from the order of the zeroLength materials.
:: With best wishes ::
Prabakaran Kesavan
Prabakaran Kesavan
-
Edmond2000
- Posts: 12
- Joined: Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:40 pm
Re: wrong modal result
Get it. I really appreciate your help.kesavapraba wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:20 pmThe penalty factor isn't fixed. It depends on the specific situation, including the units you're using and the properties of the material you're analyzing. A good starting point is to use a value similar to what you set for the penalty constraint handler in your analysis settings.
Also, you should check the order of the stiffness of load (moment) - displacement (rot) relationships assigned to Rx and Rz zeroLength materials. You can consider 3-4 order higher from the order of the zeroLength materials.
-
kesavapraba
- Posts: 468
- Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:25 pm